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| Tonnage = 70
 
| Tonnage = 70
 
| Faction = Clan
 
| Faction = Clan
| Tickets = 10
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| Tickets = 11
 
| Tier = 11
 
| Tier = 11
 
| Speed = 86.4
 
| Speed = 86.4
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| PitchCrouch = -24° to +50°
 
| PitchCrouch = -24° to +50°
  
| Price Prime = 96 800
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| Price Prime = 96 550
| ArmorT Prime = 65 186
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| ArmorT Prime = 64 240
 
| Engine Prime = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine Prime = Redline 350 XL
 
| Weapons Prime = <ul>
 
| Weapons Prime = <ul>
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<li>[[EOptics]]
 
<li>[[EOptics]]
 
<li>[[GECM]]
 
<li>[[GECM]]
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<li>[[BAP]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>6 [[DHS]]
 
<li>6 [[DHS]]
<li>2 [[free tons]]
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<li>1 [[free ton]]
<li>13.5t [[Armor]]
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<li>13t [[Armor]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price A = 97 200
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| Price A = 96 200
| ArmorT A = 65 186
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| ArmorT A = 64 240
 
| Engine A = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine A = Redline 350 XL
 
| Weapons A = <ul>
 
| Weapons A = <ul>
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<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>3 [[free tons]]
 
<li>3 [[free tons]]
<li>13.5t [[Armor]]
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<li>13t [[Armor]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price B = 97 700
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| Price B = 96 700
 
| ArmorT B = 61 403
 
| ArmorT B = 61 403
 
| Engine B = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine B = Redline 350 XL
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</ul>
 
</ul>
 
| Equip B = <ul>
 
| Equip B = <ul>
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<li>[[EOptics]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
<li>[[EOptics]]
 
 
<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>2 [[free tons]]
 
<li>2 [[free tons]]
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</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price C = 95 100
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| Price C = 99 700
| ArmorT C = 65 186
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| ArmorT C = 64 240
 
| Engine C = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine C = Redline 350 XL
 
| Weapons C = <ul>
 
| Weapons C = <ul>
<li>2x [[DSSRM4]]
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<li>1x [[CGauss]]
<li>1x [[CLBX10]]
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<li>1x [[CLPL]]
<li>1x [[cNARC]]
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<li>1x [[CDSRM6]]
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<li>1x [[CSRM6]]
 
<li>1x [[B-Pod]]
 
<li>1x [[B-Pod]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
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<li>[[EOptics]]
 
<li>[[EOptics]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
<li>4 [[DHS]]
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<li>3 [[DHS]]
<li>5 [[free ton]]
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<li>3 [[free tons]]
<li>13.5t [[Armor]]
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<li>13t [[Armor]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price D = 95 900
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| Price D = 94 900
| ArmorT D = 65 186
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| ArmorT D = 64 240
 
| Engine D = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine D = Redline 350 XL
 
| Weapons D = <ul>
 
| Weapons D = <ul>
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<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>5 [[DHS]]
 
<li>2 [[free tons]]
 
<li>2 [[free tons]]
<li>13.5t [[Armor]]
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<li>13t [[Armor]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price E = 103 500
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| Price E = 101 500
 
| ArmorT E = 57 620
 
| ArmorT E = 57 620
 
| Engine E = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine E = Redline 350 XL
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</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price F = 92 600
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| Price F = 91 600
 
| ArmorT F = 61 403
 
| ArmorT F = 61 403
 
| Engine F = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine F = Redline 350 XL
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</ul>
 
</ul>
  
| Price G = 97 000
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| Price G = 96 000
 
| ArmorT G = 57 620
 
| ArmorT G = 57 620
 
| Engine G = Redline 350 XL
 
| Engine G = Redline 350 XL
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<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>[[iJJ]]
 
<li>9 [[DHS]]
 
<li>9 [[DHS]]
<li>1 [[free tons]]
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<li>1 [[free ton]]
 
<li>12t [[Armor]]
 
<li>12t [[Armor]]
 
</ul>
 
</ul>
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| Pods = LE
 
| Pods = LE
 
| Armor H = 2760
 
| Armor H = 2760
| Armor LRT = 5852
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| Armor LRT = 5763
| Armor CT = 9003
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| Armor CT = 8867
| Armor B = 5402
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| Armor B = 5320
| Armor LA = 5897
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| Armor LA = 5808
| Armor RA = 5177
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| Armor RA = 5098
| Armor LE = 4501
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| Armor LE = 4433
| Armor INT = 3889
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| Armor LRL = 6384
| Armor LRL = 6482
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| Armor INT = 3830
  
| Version120 = 0.12.0
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| Version153 = 0.16.1
 
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The '''Thor''' (Clan designation '''Summoner''') is a low-cost [[Clan]] [[Heavy Mech]] designed around straightforward weapon packages. Combining high armor with high speed and maneuverability with its integrated [[iJJ|Improved Jump Jets]], the Thor's various configurations are well suited for a variety of engagements. While it may mount less overall firepower compared to other heavy Clan Mechs, the Thor is still a significant threat, and a pilot can compensate for any lowered firepower by using the Thor's exceptional maneuverability to his advantage. The Thor variants are very limited on electronics, however, so pilots would do well to remain in Passive Sensors unless radar use becomes absolutely necessary.  All Thor models mount their strongest weapon in their left arm, and have more armor on this arm than on the right one. The Thor arms lack articulation, however, and the free-reticle aiming mode does almost nothing for the unit.
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The '''Thor''' (Clan designation '''Summoner''') is a low-cost [[Clan]] [[Heavy Mech]] designed around straightforward weapon packages. Combining high armor with high speed and maneuverability with its integrated [[iJJ|Improved Jump Jets]], the Thor's various configurations are well suited for a variety of engagements. While it may mount less overall firepower compared to other heavy Clan Mechs, the Thor is still a significant threat, and a pilot can compensate for any lowered firepower by using the Thor's exceptional maneuverability to his advantage. Thor variants tend to have their strongest weapon mounted on their left arm, and have more armor on this arm than on the right one. Note: Thors are known for being slow to update their [[Electronic_Warfare#Detail|detailed information]] regarding their [[Armor#Mech|armor]] when [[radar|targeting]] them.
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==Roles and Gameplay Hints==
 
==Roles and Gameplay Hints==
 
 
===Prime===
 
===Prime===
The Thor Prime maintains a simple and versatile load-out designed to engage targets at long to mid range, without choking when approaching shorter ranges. A [[cERPPC]] is capable of hitting targets up to 900m away, a [[cLBX10]] delivers solid hits when targets get closer to mid ranges and the versatile [[cLRM5]]s offer decent performance on almost any range. Its 2 free tons can keep the Prime combat effective for a good while, and 6 [[DHS]] keeps the [[heat]] buildup well in check, unless constant jumpsniping with the cERPPC is practiced.
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The Thor Prime maintains a simple and versatile load-out designed to engage targets at long to mid range, without choking when approaching shorter ranges. A [[cERPPC]] is capable of hitting targets up to 900m away, a [[cLBX10]] delivers solid hits when targets get closer to mid ranges and the versatile [[cLRM5]]s offer decent performance on almost any range. [[GECM]] gives the Prime advantage of operating on its optimal ranges without drawing too much attention. Its 1 [[free tons|Free Ton]] can keep the Prime combat effective for a good while, and 6 [[DHS]] keeps the [[heat]] buildup well in check, unless constant jumpsniping with the cERPPC is practiced.
  
 
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=== Variant C ===
 
=== Variant C ===
Like the Prime and the E, the Thor C's weapons package focuses on a specific range of engagement; unlike the E variant, the C is mainly designed for medium to close-range fighting. To this end, the Thor C mounts dual [[DSSRM4]]s and a [[CLBX10]]. It has 5 extra tons of ammo for extended deployments. Pilots can chain-fire the DSSRM4s, rocking the aim of opponents with screenshake while peppering them with the CLBX10. Re-engineering has also favored this variant, receiving [[EOptics]] and a [[NARC]] launcher which are welcome additions for friendly long-range fire support units to rain down missile storms on enemy narced mechs. Single [[B-Pod]] helps deal with enemy [[BA|Battle Armor]]. Mounting [[JJ|Improved Jumpjets]] for maneuvering, the Thor C has 4 [[DHS]] to keep its relatively low heat generation in check.
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While this variant can potentially outperform even the more brawl-focused Thors in close quarters, the explosive [[Gauss]] arm is a liability in such cases. Against dedicated brawlers, take advantage of your overwhelming pinpoint firepower with the [[cLPL]] to remove weapons or drill torsos. Exploit your mobility and [[iJJ]] during weapon recycle times to dance at the edge of your [[SRM]] range - that way, you can put out as much damage as possible and maximize the impact of your screenshake. This also lets you effectively kite enemies with dangerous short-range weapons like [[HSL]]s, [[UAC20]]s, [[ATM|HEATM]]s, and massed [[SRM]]s. Chaining the two SRM racks is helpful for maximizing screenshake and keeping heatspikes manageable, which enables more aggressive use of iJJ.
  
 
=== Variant D ===
 
=== Variant D ===
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A straightforward long range mech, the Thor F sports three [[cERLL]] and a shoulder mounted [[ATM#Extender Range|ATM12(ER)]]. Assisted by [[EOptics]] the unit is perfectly happy standing all the way back at the edge of 900m and blasting targets with its full firepower. Extra 3 tons of ammo keeps the missile launcher fed for a long time. But even with 8 [[DHS]], pilots will often need to control the lasers' heat spikes with chain fire or smaller fire groups, especially when using the [[Jump Jets]] at the same time.
 
A straightforward long range mech, the Thor F sports three [[cERLL]] and a shoulder mounted [[ATM#Extender Range|ATM12(ER)]]. Assisted by [[EOptics]] the unit is perfectly happy standing all the way back at the edge of 900m and blasting targets with its full firepower. Extra 3 tons of ammo keeps the missile launcher fed for a long time. But even with 8 [[DHS]], pilots will often need to control the lasers' heat spikes with chain fire or smaller fire groups, especially when using the [[Jump Jets]] at the same time.
 
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|Comment1=Aside from being a great skirmisher, the Fox is an excellent anti-air platform. What the variant lacks in specialized anti-ASF modifiers like with Gauss or LBX it makes up for in mobility, precision, and reach. Hitting all 3 CERLL on wings will hurt even the heaviest ASF, and the ability to snap off shots without lead means you'll be able to put out that damage consistently. ERATMS fly quickly and for long distances, and thus make great finishers for fleeing ASF. Like all missiles, ERATMs hit ASF most often if you fire just as they exit their run, as they're ascending away from you. The mech's pitch isn't exceptional but the its handling characteristics combined with bursts of iJJ can usually get you a decent firing angle on ASF, or at least help you avoid the brunt of their attack run if they're focusing you. The Thor is also an exceptionally good mech for uppercutting (i.e. colliding with ASF by jumping up as they finish their dive at close range) thanks to its combination of strong jumpjets and tall frame.
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|Comment1=Aside from being a great skirmisher, the Fox is an excellent anti-air platform. Hitting all 3 CERLL on wings will hurt even the heaviest ASF, and the ability to snap off shots without lead means you'll be able to put out that damage consistently. ERATMS fly quickly and for long distances, and thus make great finishers for fleeing ASF. Like all missiles, ERATMs hit ASF most often if you fire just as they exit their run, as they're ascending away from you. The mech's [[pitch]] isn't exceptional but the its handling characteristics combined with bursts of iJJ can usually get you a decent firing angle on ASF, or at least help you avoid the brunt of their attack run if they're focusing you. The Thor is also an exceptionally good mech for uppercutting (i.e. colliding with ASF by jumping up as they finish their dive at close range) thanks to its combination of strong jumpjets and tall frame.
 
|Writer1= - [CJF]DireWolf2K}}
 
|Writer1= - [CJF]DireWolf2K}}
  
 
=== Variant G ===
 
=== Variant G ===
A mid to short range brawler, the Thor G stands between the A and D in its ratio of alpha strike damage to dps potential, while generating enough heat to fry all three of them. From 600m in the variant can make use of its two [[HLL]] to deliver precise damage to enemies, giving it the ability to skirmish from further away. As soon as it enters close combat it can use its [[UAC20]], arguably the most fearsome brawling weapon in the game, to pummel its target into submission. The unforgiving heat means that pilots will have to chain fire their lasers, and don't have much leeway to use them as long as their autocannon is still firing. Despite being equipped with [[iJJ|Improved Jump Jets]], it can be argued that it wouldn't handle the added heat. 9 [[DHS]] bring heat levels fast enough, to the point that especially maniacal pilots could even try jumpsniping.
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A mid to short range brawler, the Thor G stands between the A and D in its ratio of alpha strike damage to dps potential, while generating enough heat to fry all three of them. From 600m in the variant can make use of its two [[HLL]] to deliver precise damage to enemies, giving it the ability to skirmish from further away. As soon as it enters close combat it can use its [[UAC20]], arguably the most fearsome brawling weapon in the game, to pummel its target into submission. The unforgiving heat means that pilots will have to chain fire their lasers, and don't have much leeway to use them as long as their autocannon is still firing. Despite being equipped with [[iJJ|Improved Jump Jets]], it can be argued that it wouldn't handle the added heat. 9 [[DHS]] bring heat levels down fast enough, to the point that especially maniacal pilots could even try jumpsniping.
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==Canon==
 
==Canon==

Latest revision as of 05:27, 28 July 2023

Thor
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Class: Heavy Mech
Faction: Clan
Ticket cost: 11 upon destruction
Tier: 11
Tonnage: 70 tons
Speed: 86.4 km/h
Torso yaw: 220°
Torso pitch: -24° to +40° while standing
-24° to +50° while crouching
Variant Armament
Variant Weapons Equipment
Prime:
Price: 96 550 CBills
Total armor: 64 240
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
A:
Price: 96 200 CBills
Total armor: 64 240
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
B:
Price: 96 700 CBills
Total armor: 61 403
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
C:
Price: 99 700 CBills
Total armor: 64 240
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
D:
Price: 94 900 CBills
Total armor: 64 240
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
E:
Price: 101 500 CBills
Total armor: 57 620
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
F:
Price: 91 600 CBills
Total armor: 61 403
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
G:
Price: 96 000 CBills
Total armor: 57 620
Engine Size: Redline 350 XL
Armor Points Distribution
LE
BT
HD
LA
LL
LT
CT
RT
RA
RL
INT
4433
5320
2760
5808
5098
6384
5763
8867
5763
6384
3830

All stats current as of release 0.16.1

The Thor (Clan designation Summoner) is a low-cost Clan Heavy Mech designed around straightforward weapon packages. Combining high armor with high speed and maneuverability with its integrated Improved Jump Jets, the Thor's various configurations are well suited for a variety of engagements. While it may mount less overall firepower compared to other heavy Clan Mechs, the Thor is still a significant threat, and a pilot can compensate for any lowered firepower by using the Thor's exceptional maneuverability to his advantage. Thor variants tend to have their strongest weapon mounted on their left arm, and have more armor on this arm than on the right one. Note: Thors are known for being slow to update their detailed information regarding their armor when targeting them.


Roles and Gameplay Hints

Prime

The Thor Prime maintains a simple and versatile load-out designed to engage targets at long to mid range, without choking when approaching shorter ranges. A cERPPC is capable of hitting targets up to 900m away, a cLBX10 delivers solid hits when targets get closer to mid ranges and the versatile cLRM5s offer decent performance on almost any range. GECM gives the Prime advantage of operating on its optimal ranges without drawing too much attention. Its 1 Free Ton can keep the Prime combat effective for a good while, and 6 DHS keeps the heat buildup well in check, unless constant jumpsniping with the cERPPC is practiced.

Player Comments:
Using chainfired cLRMs to keep constant pressure on the target can make returning fire more difficult.


Variant A - "Karate"

This Summoner is an skirmisher with a firing solution for any range 450m out to 900m, the main hitting fist being the overwhelming CDSSRM6, in the shortest range. Most of it's weapons come to bear at 600m, so it can be used for jump sniping in the medium range, saving it's main blow for the unlucky opponents who try deal with is toe to toe. It's only 5 DHS might be heavily taxed by the extended range lasers and the hot ultra auto cannon if used in accord with the Improved Jumpjets.
Despite sporting extended optics, and lacking any ECM, this unit is can tap into it's full potential only with active radar and in close range. Use with utmost care.

Variant B

Focused on providing long- and medium-range fire support, the B variant employs a single Hyper Assault Gauss/30 - which can reach out to 1200 meters - as its main gun, whose effectiveness is augmented by the inclusion of EOptics. For anything that gets closer, the B can unleash a punishing combination of an Heavy Large Laser and a Standard Advanced Tactical Missile-9. Two free tons for ammunition allow this variant some battlefield longevity. Despite the rather large potential damage output this variant possesses, it is not without flaws. While considerably shorter ranged than the LRM5s of the Prime, the Standard ATM9 also has a minimum effective range, which pilots must keep in mind. Additionally, the HLL builds a lot of heat when used in conjunction with the other weapons, and repeated use is not recommended. Fortunately, the Improved Jump Jets help to maintain distance from enemies as well as traverse difficult terrain, since ideal engagement range is at ~500m. While 5 Double Heat Sinks keep heat levels fairly manageable.

Variant C

While this variant can potentially outperform even the more brawl-focused Thors in close quarters, the explosive Gauss arm is a liability in such cases. Against dedicated brawlers, take advantage of your overwhelming pinpoint firepower with the cLPL to remove weapons or drill torsos. Exploit your mobility and iJJ during weapon recycle times to dance at the edge of your SRM range - that way, you can put out as much damage as possible and maximize the impact of your screenshake. This also lets you effectively kite enemies with dangerous short-range weapons like HSLs, UAC20s, HEATMs, and massed SRMs. Chaining the two SRM racks is helpful for maximizing screenshake and keeping heatspikes manageable, which enables more aggressive use of iJJ.

Variant D

A brawler similar to the A, Thor D trades longer ranged weapon options for stealth. Sporting a cLBX20, 2 HMLs and a shoulder mounted ATM(HE)9, it is capable of a brutal opening alpha strike. In order to get close enough to be able to even jump to its optimal range of 300m with its Improved Jumpjets, it mounts a GECM suite. This makes it capable of concealing its radar signature while running active, a necessity to effectively use its missiles. Its amazing alpha strike power, manoeuvrable jumpjets and need for close spaces make it a no-brainer for urban engagements. Two free tons extend its operating time on the field, while 5 DHS are, somewhat adequate to manage its heat generation as long as pilots respect its heat spikes and some coolant usage. B-Pod helps deal with overconfident Battle Armor

Variant E - "Xolotl"

A new take on the popular long-range fire support role, the E variant has a straight forward and simple design. As usual, the primary weapon is mounted in the well protected left arm, in this case a Clan Gauss Rifle. Two cERPPCs round the unit out nicely, the shoulder mounted one is great for just peaking over a rise and fading back below, or using its improved jump jets to poptart, however a total of 8 heat sinks will be main limiting factor of the fire rate.

Variant F - "Tlaloc"

A straightforward long range mech, the Thor F sports three cERLL and a shoulder mounted ATM12(ER). Assisted by EOptics the unit is perfectly happy standing all the way back at the edge of 900m and blasting targets with its full firepower. Extra 3 tons of ammo keeps the missile launcher fed for a long time. But even with 8 DHS, pilots will often need to control the lasers' heat spikes with chain fire or smaller fire groups, especially when using the Jump Jets at the same time.

Player Comments:
Aside from being a great skirmisher, the Fox is an excellent anti-air platform. Hitting all 3 CERLL on wings will hurt even the heaviest ASF, and the ability to snap off shots without lead means you'll be able to put out that damage consistently. ERATMS fly quickly and for long distances, and thus make great finishers for fleeing ASF. Like all missiles, ERATMs hit ASF most often if you fire just as they exit their run, as they're ascending away from you. The mech's pitch isn't exceptional but the its handling characteristics combined with bursts of iJJ can usually get you a decent firing angle on ASF, or at least help you avoid the brunt of their attack run if they're focusing you. The Thor is also an exceptionally good mech for uppercutting (i.e. colliding with ASF by jumping up as they finish their dive at close range) thanks to its combination of strong jumpjets and tall frame.
- [CJF]DireWolf2K


Variant G

A mid to short range brawler, the Thor G stands between the A and D in its ratio of alpha strike damage to dps potential, while generating enough heat to fry all three of them. From 600m in the variant can make use of its two HLL to deliver precise damage to enemies, giving it the ability to skirmish from further away. As soon as it enters close combat it can use its UAC20, arguably the most fearsome brawling weapon in the game, to pummel its target into submission. The unforgiving heat means that pilots will have to chain fire their lasers, and don't have much leeway to use them as long as their autocannon is still firing. Despite being equipped with Improved Jump Jets, it can be argued that it wouldn't handle the added heat. 9 DHS bring heat levels down fast enough, to the point that especially maniacal pilots could even try jumpsniping.


Canon

A heavy OmniMech with good mobility, the Summoner, dubbed the Thor in the Inner Sphere, has often been unfairly compared to the Timber Wolf (Mad Cat). The Summoner handles cleanly and conversely better than its seventy-five ton counterpart, while carrying less firepower. Its main weapons load out (LB-10X AC, ER PPC and LRM 15) gives it hitting power at all ranges, but little staying power once the ammunition runs out, a common trait to most of its base configurations. The 'Mech originated with the Jade Falcons, and remains a popular design in the heavy and assault clusters of the Falcon touman.

Date Introduced 2872 during the Era known as "Early Succession War" (2781 - 2900) - Unit Role: Sniper

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